Saturday, November 6, 2004

Onto business.....

I am not sure how I feel about our country seeming to view gay marriage so dividedly.  Well, I know how I feel..... I am confused.  We seem to mostly accept the fact the are such things as gay relationships.   Homosexuals can adopt children.  They attend church (es), some are Christians, Catholics (as we all know), Baptists, Methodists.... I could go on.  Point being.... there are gay people in our society.  

Do you know when blacks were still enslaved, their marriages were not legal?  They had to perform secret ceremonies in their shacks that made their marriage (in their eyes) legal and binding in God's eyes.  This ritual was ended with jumping over a broom.   

Now the issue is about gay marriages be consitutionally forbidden.  As I said before.... history repeats itself.  The slavery issue caused (one of the reasons, anyway) a Civil War.  Are we ready to go there again?   

I get the Bible says it is wrong.  Most all religions believe that.  But isn't that between them and God?  Why is it ok to have sex before we're married?  The same books say that is wrong.  Could it be those acts were barred in religion because they could produce no children, therefore they could not help in the expansion of religious followers? Hmmmmmmm.  Wonder what Billy Graham thinks about that?!   

Remember, folks, that in times of 'yore', dominions were ruled by religion righteousness.  The more procreating, the more the populations grew... the more people a ruler had control over and spread his interpretation over the lands.  It is obvious all over the world today.   

There are so many different factions in the world...who all believe they are right; their ways are right; and they are the ones chosen by God to be saved.....   Have we thought maybe we are all wrong? 

If religious texts all basically read the same and share the same stories of morals and values... are we that different?    So, why can't gay people be legally married?  It was less than 100 years ago (really only about 50 some) that black and whites couldn't be together.  If I was born in the south before 1960, my kid and I might be dead.    The people of America saw the wrongs then, why not now?  The Bible (depending on one's interpretation again) states to , in laymans terms, stick to your own kind.  So how did we come to see through that as not going against God?  

I want to know what you guys here really think.  The truth.  Email me if you want to keep your opinion quiet.  Comment here if you want.  But I want to know reasons, more than because the Bible says so.    Send friends here... the more people who answer--the better I can grasp what the hangup is.  

Last night on "Real Time" with Bill Maher on HBO (did I mention I love this man's brain?!), 

Real Time with Bill Maher he closed with his usual 'New Rules' one of which was "To the South, upon further consideration.....Goodbye!  Go on, leave.  You know what they say, if at first you don't secede, try, try again."   He was referring to the Christian Right who turned out in droves to vote on banning gay marriage constitutionally only  (I truly enjoy the southern states myself).    

These are last weeks 'new rules' :  

 "All right. I've got to move on. It is time for New Rules, ladies and gentlemen!

All right. New Rule: If you were surprised that Ashlee Simpson was lip synching, you aren't allowed to vote. Not knowing that mechanically-generated tween-agers lip synch is like believing your stripper's real name is Cherry Bomb.

New Rule: This election day in Florida, to make up for Republican dirty tricks in 2000, black Floridians must go into white districts and hang around the polling places and scare white people away. Just like at the ATM, the far end of the subway and theaters showing kung fu movies. So say hello to your new Palm Beach County Election Commissioner, Willie Horton.

New Rule: You can't call it a treat if everyone hates it. We toppled Saddam Hussein. Why can't we get rid of candy corn? Anyone who hands this stuff out on Halloween hates your children and wants them to die. They just don't have the guts to stick a razorblade in an apple.

New Rule: Scientology makes you fat. Kirstie Alley, Lisa Marie Presley, John Travolta: fat, fat, fat! L. Ron Hubbard went to the cupboard to fetch his old dog a bone. But it was gone because his followers scarfed it! Let's be honest. It's not a religion. It's just an excuse for a bake sale.

Speaking of food, New Rule: No McDonald's in hospitals. I'm not kidding! They are putting McDonald's in hospitals. Hello? You're doctors. You're not supposed to be in the repeat-business business. This is like if John Edwards covered the floor outside his trial law office with banana peels. Sorry, Fast Food Nation, but we already figured out a way to screw patients. They're called HMO's.

And finally, New Rule: If you don't want to be called a fear monger, don't make an ad that says America is being attacked by wolves. Yes, it's true, the only thing that stands between us and packs of carnivores eating us alive is a retarded cowboy, his heart-diseased sidekick and their lesbian daughter, Butch. Now, this advertisement is an insult to wolves everywhere. And if wolves could respond, here's what they'd say:

[Bill puts on wolf's head] With apologies. Now, as a member of the Wolf Political Action Committee, or Wolf PAC, I'm outraged at this vicious slur against lupine Americans. Let me say this as plainly as I can: the only thing I have in common with Osama bin Laden is that we're both running free. Also, I happen to know that three of the wolves in that ad are backing Kerry. They just needed the work. Wolf actors have to take any part that comes along. We're like midgets that way.

But the thing that really has my teats in a wringer – is that George Bush's propaganda machine has done more harm to the image of wolves than anything since that bitch, Little Red Riding Hood. And this from a president who spends every free moment on his "ranch" clearing brush. You call it brush, I call it my habitat. The man's hobby is deforestation.

And by the way, if there's not livestock on the property - and believe me, I've checked – it's not a ranch. What I'm saying is that President Bush has quietly built up the worst environmental record of any president since Andrew Jackson stopped killing Indians by hand!

Look at the air we breathe. I mean, look at it! I wanted to howl at the moon last night. I just couldn't see it! This wolf has been working the mountains. Of course, he's a wolf. The terrorists I worry about work for the Department of the Interior. President Bush, or as our Indian friends call him, "Dances Around the Facts," President Bush speaks constantly about how he's the guy to protect us. But what about protecting us from what's actually killing people right here, right now?

I don't know how the environment got to be the lost issue of the 2004 election, but may I suggest on Tuesday, instead of voting your pocketbooks, vote your lungs; vote your kidneys. Vote your gall bladder. Vote for the organs that are going to have to process all the toxic shit that is in the sky, the ground water, the food supply and the pharmacy. Vote your grandkids' DNA. Vote for a president who won't hand the job of protecting the environment over to former oil and lumber executives because when you get right down to it, that would be like asking me to keep an eye on your sheep.

All right, that's our show. I want to thank Thomas Friedman, Ann Coulter, Richard Belzer, General Wesley Clark and Kevin Costner. Thank you, folks. We'll see you next week!"

 I like people who make me think.  He does.  Rush Limbaugh does.  Dr. Laura does (though on personal issues).   

So, J-Land... it is your turn to make me think!  



vernae69 said...

If all these things Bush is against are so bad, then why does he want to run this country?  In his eyes we are all going to hell anyway.

djzgirl71 said...

Yep, hell in a hand basket true.  Cat, I agree with you so much.  I may have my own issues with gay relationships but I do not have a problem with them marrying.  Like I have said...they deserve all the rights we have.  I want to make this world a better, more peaceful and accepting world for my children.  As I have clearly stated before my son seems like h eis gay, I do believe people are just born that way.  That being the case, if I do not stand up for gay and lesbian people and fight for their equality now, tomorrow I may wake up and find that the very things I said or did will affect my kids when they end up gay.  I don't want to live with that on my shoulders.  I'll be damned if anyone treats my kid different because he/she is gay.  I will fight it all the way....even if my kids never end up gay.  I just long for a more loving and peaceful world to live in with much more tolerance and acceptance!

Stacy oxox

swebb1989 said...


My take is that if the Gays would like to enter into the Bonds of Holy Matrimony then so be it. But why would you want to enter into an agreement with the losing odds of 57.7%? With the end result meaning financial loss, loss of family, loss of home! Notice the word loss?? 57.7% that is more than half of hetrosexual married couples are experiencing this every year! and they say that marriage is sacred? i think that we need to re-evaluate!    

st0rmwhispers said...

I think american citizens are american citizens gay, straight or otherwise.  I think sin is sin and I know the Bible says that one should take the plank out of their own eye before complaining about the speck in another's.  It also says that God is the Judge and not us.  I think that America is full of homophobes and closet dwellers afraid to have their own sexuality questioned.  I think the religious right is wrong and that the religious left is ignored...oh and I think Rush Limbaugh is a self righteous bigotted idiot and Dr. Laura is his female counterpart...but those are just my personal opinions....