Saturday, October 16, 2004

Would you do the same?

Here's something from AOL News....   Reservists Refuse Iraq Mission Army Probing Up to 19 Members of Supply Platoon By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, AP  

WASHINGTON (Oct. 16) - Relatives of soldiers who refused to deliver supplies in Iraq say the troops considered the mission too dangerous, in part because their vehicles were in poor shape.

 

The Army is investigating up to 19 reservist members of a platoon that is part of the 343rd Quartermaster Company, based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food, water and fuel on trucks in combat zones.

 

Convoys in Iraq are frequently subject to ambushes and roadside bombings.

 

Some of the troops' safety concerns were being addressed, military officials said. But a coalition spokesman in Baghdad said ''a small number of the soldiers involved chose to express their concerns in an inappropriate manner, causing a temporary breakdown in discipline.''

 

The coalition said in a statement Saturday that the troops are ''not being guarded or detained. They are being interviewed. They're taking statements.''

 

But the relatives said they were told the soldiers had been confined.

 

Teresa Hill of Dothan, Ala., who said her daughter, Amber McClenny, was among in the platoon, received a phone message from her early Thursday morning saying they had been detained by U.S. military authorities.

 

''This is a real, real, big emergency,'' McClenny said in her message. ''I need you to contact someone. I mean, raise pure hell.''

 

McClenny said in her message that her platoon had refused to go on a fuel-hauling convoy to Taji, north of Baghdad. ''We had broken down trucks, non-armored vehicles and, um, we were carrying contaminated fuel. They are holding us against our will. We are now prisoners,'' she said.

 

Hill said she was later contacted by Spc. Tammy Reese in Iraq, who was calling families of the soldiers.

 

''She told me (Amber) was being held in a tent with armed guards,'' said Hill, who spoke with her daughter Friday afternoon after her release. Her daughter said they are facing punishment ranging from a reprimand to a charge of mutiny.

 

The incident was first reported Friday by The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss. Family members told the newspaper that several platoon members had been confined.

 

The supply route the soldiers were to have used, is among the most dangerous in Iraq. The military calls it ''Main Supply Route Tampa.'' Many soldiers have been wounded there by roadside bombs and rifle and rocket-propelled grenade fire.

 

A commanding general has ordered the unit to undergo a ''safety-maintenance stand down,'' during which it will conduct no further missions as the unit's vehicles are inspected, the military said.

 

On Wednesday, 19 members of the platoon did not show up for a scheduled 7 a.m. meeting in Tallil, in southeastern Iraq, to prepare for the fuel convoy's departure a few hours later, the military statement said.

''An initial report indicated that some of the 19 soldiers (not all) refused to participate in the convoy as directed,'' the statement said.

 

The mission was ultimately carried out by other soldiers from the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said.

 

Staff Sgt. Christopher Stokes, a 37-year-old chemical engineer from Charlotte, N.C., went to Iraq with the 343rd but had to come home because of an injury. He said reservists were given inferior equipment and tensions in the company had been building since they were deployed in February.

 

''It wasn't really safe,'' he said. ''The vehicles are not all that up to par anyway. The armor that they have is homemade. It's not really armor. It's like little steel rails.''

 

A whole unit refusing to go on a mission in a war zone would be a significant breach of military discipline. The military statement said the incident ''isolated'' and called the 343rd an experienced unit that performed honorable service in nine months in Iraq.

 

U.S. military officials said the commanding general of the 13th Corps Support Command., Brig. Gen. James E. Chambers, had appointed his deputy, Col. Darrell Roll, to investigate. An investigative team under Roll is in Tallil, questioning soldiers about the incident, the military said.

 

''Preliminary findings indicate that there were several contributing factors that led to the late convoy incident and alleged refusal to participate by some soldiers,'' the military said. ''It would be inappropriate to discuss those factors while the investigation continues.''

 

Separately, the commander of the 300th Area Support Group, listed on a military Web site as Col. Pamela Adams, has ordered a criminal inquiry to determine if any soldiers committed crimes under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and, if so, whether disciplinary measures are warranted.

 

The platoon has troops from Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Mississippi and South Carolina, said Hill.

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Associated Press writers Samira Jafari in Montgomery, Ala., and Jeffrey Collins in Columbia, S.C., contributed to this report.

10-16-04 0702EDT

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

 

So, what do you say about this?  Do you feel soldiers should have the right to refuse a mission if they have faulty equipment?  My dad (ex-Marine) who was in Cuba for the Bay of Pigs, and Vietnam with non-firing M-16s, says soldiers should refuse orders if they do not have what they need.  Tell me what you think, I want to know........

 

Cat

 

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

If in fact the statements of the soldiers are true and their equipment was in deed faulty  I believe that they as human beings should have the right to refuse their mission.  It does not surprise me in the least that our government would do such a thing.  It sickens me but fails to surprise me.  I know and understand that war is dangerous and that by being there and having had went into the service on their own free will means they accepted the risks to their lives by signing up.  However, fighting a war means taking risks, but why send someone in the firing zone ill-equipped with a strike against them?  These soldiers are in enough danger as it is why set them up for a possibly suicide mission when their equipment isn't up to par?  Seems pretty unfair of our government to expect them to do this and also to expect them just to follow their superiors orders knowing full well the added dangers.  I would do it to.  I would refuse time and again and I wouldn't think twice.  And if it were my son or my daughter, god forbid, I would hope they would stand up for what they believe in.  Just one persons thoughts and opinions.....

Stacy

Anonymous said...

If it were me I would have to do the samething the troops did. My reason is that it is bad enough that they have to be over in Iraq risking there lives but why not try to be as careful as possible. There is already that thought in the back of your head (as a troop) that this maybe your last mission but when you are on a mission with faulty equipment all you think is that you are going to die this time and then that leaves open the possiblity that I may not perform as I should because I don't have that little bit of hope that the equipment might work.